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An audio interview with Fr. Richard Rohr

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In this interview Brie Stoner engages in conversation with Fr. Richard Rohr, covering a number of topics in a forthcoming book he’s in the process of writing. Here they explore a more “universal” understanding of Christ—Christ as an ongoing manifestation from the very beginning of existence, manifesting through women and men and all living creatures, not confined to any particular faith tradition, and an animating force that continues to manifest in the evolutionary process itself.

Christ is the first idea in the mind of God. Jesus appeared 2000 years ago to make that universal manifestation personal and concrete and accessible.

Fr. Richard considers how a personal encounter through Jesus is balanced with a more universal principle of Christ—where the Christ is not an exclusive savoir confined to the Christian faith, rather

… the Christ is a message for all of creation that is in competition with no one, but a gift for clarification of all of our religions, including Christianity itself. I think that’s what a rediscovery of the Christ offers…

As they wrap us Fr. Richard shares his renewed appreciation for the value for personal prayer.


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Richard RohrFr. Richard Rohr OFM is a globally recognized ecumenical teacher bearing witness to the universal awakening within Christian mysticism and the Perennial Tradition. He is a Franciscan priest and founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation ( in Albuquerque, New Mexico, where he also serves as Academic Dean of the Living School for Action and Contemplation. Fr. Richard’s teaching is grounded in the Franciscan alternative orthodoxy–practices of contemplation and self-emptying, expressing itself in radical compassion, particularly for the socially marginalized.

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Brie Stoner is a mother of two boys, a Michigan dweller, musician, writer, student and 2015 graduate of the Living School for Action and Contemplation. Brie currently serves as a program designer for the Center for Action and Contemplation.  She is enrolled in the Chicago Theological Seminary’s graduate program, and hopes to earn her M.A. continuing her studies on Teilhard de Chardin, whose work she regularly writes about on her own blog Becoming Ultra Human.


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  1. Compelling interview! Thank you Brie and Richard. I found your comments about the manifestation of God as the Christ since the beginning of all reality heartwarming. I was also helped to better understand the personal manifestation of Jesus as the human one. It seems to me that Ilia Delio, Richard Rohr and John Haught are plumbing the depths of a deep mystery and writing to help us move forward in faith and understanding of the cosmic Christ. As I think about Teilhard’s sense of the withiness of consciousness and the withoutness of love, it seems to me that Ilia, Richard and John are helping us to discover more of this mystery, especially becoming more conscious of the manifestation of Christ. I am grateful.

  2. Thank you for this. Encouraging insight and an excellent sampling of what’s to come in Fr. Richard’s book. Brie, you were a thoughtful, engaged interviewer. Good stuff.

  3. Thank you Richard Rohr and Ilia Delio for bringing Christianity in to the 21 st century. Thank you for taking us into the deeper meaning of what it is to be alive and human, and discovering the real message of Jesus Christ. Rohr and Delio with their fresh insights via mysticism, allow conventional Christianity to escape its hidebound, cultural, spiritual and theological cul de sac. Teilard De Chardin and Karl Rahner were both right. Amen!

  4. HASN’T BEEN TRIED YET! Absolutely! the christogenesis of brie and richard, ilia and teilhard is the gift of our generation and our challenge to manifest. i love the concept that we must stand up for the missing 13 billion yrs and join with their divinity for ours to be balanced and complete. the continual coming only arrives when we own that and join it with a christogenesis of the future. The Presence is the gift, your efforts are so critical and timely and bear witness to their need for continuous reinterpretation to be truly honored. blessings and gratitude

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